A Long Letter to the G man on Alex Jones, educational outreach suggestions, and Jesus as “self-hating†Jew

I didn’t want to take up a lot of text real estate in the conversation thread on this so I thought I would post this as a full blog.
Gretavo,
Regarding the whole Alex Jones, “Loose Change†media truth-show phenomenon and my take on it all, mildly disagree as you wish, my uncompromising, free-speech brother. I fully understand how hard-core truth-seekers about any subject hate the PR-related pragmatism of a “movement.†We want the full truth and the full truth only – half-truths or incomplete truths only lead to more cover-ups and more hidden things that perhaps we really ought to know about. Yet, when we are still struggling to get people to even logically consider the fact that films of WTC7 are clearly showing an obvious, classic controlled demolition job, and that huge commercial airliners don’t just liquefy when they hit reinforced concrete like at the Pentagon, the bringing into this 9/11 info-mix of the larger context of the publicly documented Israeli/Zionist agenda for the Middle East, and similar subjects, is a difficult thing to do when we are still at stage one: calling into the person’s ear that their alarm clock is ringing and they need to start opening their eyes a little bit. If they or we continue to sleep, the “terrorists†will win, as you know.
Regarding the Alex Jones topic, something pragmatically interesting that a friend of mine pointed out is that, although California or East Coast “liberal†intellectuals may be turned off to his “style†or schtick, Alex Jones does have a demonstrated ability to reach an audience we can’t, an audience that may not relate very well to you or I – an audience of southern conservatives, cops and military folks. Luke Rudkowski and his group also do a lot of NYPD 9/11 truth “outreach,†and they do it well, with patience, and in a fairly non-threatening way. And at this juncture, if I might interject, when the guns of the military-police state are all of a sudden pointed our way, some of that outreach work may be helpful down the road.
Another form of educational outreach, which I think is essential if you want to have any hope of intelligently revealing the fuller and more complicated 9/11 story, is to educate people about the marked differences between the faith of Judaism, the “ethnic identity†of being “Jewish,†and the modern, secular, racist political ideology of Zionism. We need to educate people that there are Jewish people who are morally anti-Zionists. We need to also explain to them exactly what “Zionism†is. If people understand the differences, then they will be able to understand that you can be anti-Zionism, but pro-Judaism. You can be Jewish, but not be a Zionist, and there are also different varieties or intensities of Zionism as well. In the interests of honest discussion of history and modern political reality, people also need to understand that criticism of the policies of the State of Israel should not be misinterpreted as criticism of the Jewish people. People need to understand that when a Jewish scholar criticizes the ideology of Zionism or the policies of the State of Israel, he or she is not doing so because of being a “self-hating†Jew -- he or she is doing it because they are being a “moral†Jew, and are commanded by God to speak out against injustice. People should also know that the label “Zionist†is in fact, if correctly used, not a racial slur. The word is commonly used by all supporters of the ideology of the “Jewish State†(Herzl’s der Judenstadt), as in the 1898 name given to their first official body, the “World Zionist Congress.†If the words “Zionist†or “Zionism†can be properly used in their correct and specific historical and ideological contexts, then when I say something like, “Richard Perle or Paul Wolfowitz are “right-wing Zionists,†the informed listener will readily understand that I am not referring to their Jewishness or ethnicity, but to the socio-political ideology that they advocate, and the agenda(s) that they work for. The term “neo-conservative†or “neo-con†also does not refer to their faith or ethnicity, for Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, and Rice are all neo-cons, yet not Jewish. It is akin to labeling Dick Cheney a Republican and someone trying to connect the usage of that particular political label to Cheney’s professed adherence to the Christian faith. The two are as antithetical as Judaism is to Zionism. Also, for those keeping score at home: the Arabs make up the majority of “Semitic†peoples in the world, so the killing of an Arab to take his land actually falls under the category of “anti-Semitic hate crimes.†Calling Arabs “dogs†(kilab), and treating them as such also comes under the category of “anti-Semitic hate crimes.†The existence of Palestinian refugee camps, in and of themselves, come under the category of “anti-Semitic hate crimes.†The decades-long cry of “anti-Semitism†to halt discussion and cover over the “unpleasant†and morally embarrassing facts of its modern history, should never be employed again by the current apartheid regime of the state of Israel against any of its critics. If you criticize the U.S. government, are you suddenly “anti-Christian†because of your pointing out a few war crimes? Wouldn’t Jesus have spoken up about these things if he were here? Would you then call him a self-hating Jew? I’ll bet Rupert Murdoch and Bill O’Lielly would.
Another reason we should consider having this sort of educational campaign and more honest discussion is to prevent innocent people from being persecuted or harmed as the 9/11 story continues to unfold, research-wise. Remember the turban-wearing Indian Sikh guy working at a gas station in Texas just after 9/11 who was shot by a cowboy who thought that the “Ay-rabs did 9/11� Imagine, if you will, if the American audience were to arrive at the realization that a small group of Israeli intelligence operatives were the ones who wired those buildings in New York, and that a relatively small cabal of Neo-con, Zionist, dual-national elements in U.S. government and private business worked together with members of the Israeli government and intelligence services to operationally and technologically bring about the events of 9/11 and launch the bogus “war on terror.†Let’s put it this way, I wouldn’t want to be a young orthodox Jewish kid living in Brooklyn or in Texas when such news hit the front page. Of course, this is, I’m sure, one of several reasons behind Abe Foxman from the ADL furiously visiting every major media executive’s office to pull all news coverage of the nearly two hundred Mossad agents rounded up and deported just after 9/11.
Although it is highly unlikely in this case, we know, however, from history, that Zionist organizations, including Mossad, have indeed “sacrificed†Jewish people if it was seen as necessary to their own larger agenda. Thus, Jewish persecution and anti-Semitism, both real and staged, beautifully play into the Zionist game plan, which is based upon the employment of the image -- We are a “uniquely and constantly persecuted†people that can only be safe if we have a state of our own with a 3,000 mile militarily controlled “buffer zone†between “us†and the barbarian world which “hates us.†Yet, in the modern world, as the Neturei Karta rabbis always point out, it is this very ideology of, and actions inspired by, Zionism itself that is at the root cause of all the anti-Semitism in the world. Bulldozing someone’s house simply because “you can†doesn’t make you a whole lot of friends on any planet.
It is my prayer and hope that no one from the innocent majority has to suffer because a small minority of fanatical, militant, right-wing Zionist elites, with their acquisitional eye on Eretz Yisrael, hooked up with the Bilderberg Globalists and the Republican Big Oil crowd for one of the biggest staged terror attacks of all time. 9/11 was indeed big, but it merely set the table and the conditions for their next attack, which we are now hearing from Zionist, CIA mole Michael Scheuer, will be “much bigger than 9/11.†This “prediction†comes from a retired CIA agent who headed the agency's secret unit “dedicated†to capturing Osama bin Laden. The secret unit was officially shut down a year ago because they got completely bored with trying to pretend they were looking for a dead patsy who they knew had already died over five years ago in a Pakistani military hospital in December 2001. Those who are in the know, and are honest, predict that the false flag that will be flown over the next treasonous “inside job†terror operation will be that of Iran. Any psychics in the house?
This next U.S.-Israeli co-sponsored false flag attack on America is for all the chips at the table. This time, they want to lock down the ‘hood forever. The PNAC and “Clean Break†strategy roadmaps are being followed to the letter. This July 2006 document “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,†is a report prepared by a study group at The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. The name of the study group was "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." Its members included “The Prince of Darkness†Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser. Their study group presented this strategy document to Binyamin Netanyahu upon his 1996 election as Israeli Prime Minister. With regards to the three year old, 1993 Oslo Accords’ “land for peace†deal, this new document contained a new and better plan called “peace for peace,†i.e. “if you are good and don’t bug us about getting any of your land back, we promise, for the most part, to not come into your little, mud villages and crush you like slaves.â€
Anyways, that is all I can think of to say right now on these subjects.
Have an ale for peace down in old B town, buddy.
Go Red Sox!
Later...
Lazlo
I will continue on my chosen course, Laz, but thanks.
Thanks for expressing yourself so well and as usual candidly.
Here we must, I'm afraid, stand apart. You are absolutely right that the next event will be for all the chips on the table, which is why I have decided to come to terms with my own hedging, which I will explain thusly:
I have long hoped that upon learning the truth about 9/11 a great many people would begin a process of self-examination--that people would understand the seriousness of what is happening in the world. Sadly this process has failed to materialize. Though some will no doubt think me paranoid for saying so, it has become clear to me that far from acknowledging their gross errors, the enablers of the continuation of the big lie have been playing a little game with me and no doubt others whereby we are being "felt out" as to our true feelings and motives, with an eye to figuring out ways that we might be induced to "play along", not "rock the boat", agree to "incrementalism", in short to compromise our principles in exchange for false assurances that all will be made well but in such a way so as to cause minimal pain.
We are, I am sad to report, well beyond the point where addressing the current world crisis will be accomplished without pain. That has been clear for the last 6 years to our Arab and Muslim brothers and sisters, as well as to our American compatriots who have been so cruelly deceived into committing acts that will never cease to haunt them. The pain is already all too real for a great many people.
Let me be clear as to what I am not saying--I am not saying, suggesting, or in any way insinuating that what has gone around will or must come around. I will always hold out hope that those within whose power it is to call an immediate end to the suffering of the world will do so and will do so in an unprecedented spirit of repentance. That is what it would take, and the more time goes on and the more vile behavior I observe with no indication of any such intentions on those responsible the more resigned I become to the inevitability of the fate towards which humanity is being driven.
Any tragedy that ensues as a result of the refusal of some to abandon their agendas and ambitions in the face of sure failure will not be my fault, of that I have no qualms. Focusing attention on what some perceive to be MY faults or faults in MY approach is not something that is going to contribute to any effort to mitigate the consequences of what others have set into motion and that others--again not myself--have seen fit to perpetuate.
To quote Sinead O'Connor in The Emperor's New Clothes, which seems appropriate in these times:
everyone can see what's going on
they laugh 'cos they know they're untouchable
not because what I said was wrong
whatever it may bring
I will live by my own policies
I will sleep with a clear conscience
I will sleep in peace
maybe it sounds mean
but I really don't think so
you asked for the truth and I told you
through their own words
they will be exposed
they've got a severe case of
the emperor's new clothes.
I have done all I can in the best possible faith. I have no illusions about what this will mean for my future, but suffice it to say that my memory will be kept and kept faithfully intact so that others might be inspired to pick up wherever I leave off. Of this I have made quite certain.
I agree with both of you.
Although, I think you set the bar too high for 'regular folk' just doing the best they can to wake the sheeple, G. At this point anyone with any sense at all feels the urgency to simply get the truth to as many people as they can as fast as possible. I've been resigned to the fact, for a long time now, that this thing is not going to end without major bloodshed.
Your opinions are your opinions and I respect & consider them. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but I do know your intentions (like many other's) are good and I will stand beside you (and any honest truth seeker) no matter what.
If those you question are honest as to their intentions your words will not matter, everyone should keep that in mind.
you missed my point BigD
I'm not talking about regular people failing, I'm talking about the elites. I'm talking about the people who have approached me in various ways on various occasions, or more specifically the people they represent. You have to understand where I'm coming from, and where my truthing is based--it is very deep in the elites' territory and as such I've been able to observe pretty closely the reaction to my jabbing the big lie right in one of its main nerve centers.
I won't say much more about that for now, but I did want to clarify, yet again, that none of this has anything to do with common people of any ethnic or religious group--all common people, and they are the vast majority, are in one way or another being duped, bribed, or otherwise used. There are many, however, who are neither with the elite conspirators nor, if they are aware of them, taking the necessary steps to stop them.
The time has come for the conspiracy to end, to be shut down, and for humanity to be released from its ages-old prison. Sooner or later it will happen of necessity, and as we approach that moment in time there will be many opportunities for many different people to decide whether by their action or inaction they will hasten or prolong the needless and escalating suffering underway. For some the dilemma will be overcoming their cowardice, for others, their ignorance, vanity, or pride.
It's a story that is now unfolding and that will someday be told in its entirety, the only question is when. It could take 5 years or 500 but it will be told.
Not really.
as in missing your point. I'm not stupid, and I think I can empathize. I know where you're from and where you work, anyone who has paid attention does, and I can imagine the elbows you rub (wrong).
Some people see this as a joke (or a career opportunity), not me.
...
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"
hijacking Jefferson Airplane
i LOVE that song... I also loved Alice in Wonderland when I finally read it a couple years back. In fact the dormouse never said feed your head (which I was waiting for the whole time I read it...) it was all about the madhatter and the rabbit (I think) not remembering what the dormouse said, during the show trial Alice was put through... or something like that... anyway thanks BigD--I didn't mean to imply you were dense! I just wanted to make it clear that I don't think any "regular" people or truthers like us are to blame for the lack of progress--I think we're doing a pretty amazing job. I'm just disappointed in the so-called elite who would seem to be elite in a limited sense--their wisdom is sorely lacking, especially compared to the "regular" folk I've come to know in the movement.
rock on!
Lemonhokum Quote: Whats
Lemonhokum Quote:
Whats really your goal RT? Would you be happy to hear I quit my efforts to bring a new investigation to the forefront?
Would it please you that Jon Gold stop his efforts.
Im sure you would be happy if Atomicbomb decided all this bullshit you post is too much to deal with so he quits his activism too.
All this because Jon Gold can't let an honest discussion of the holocaust take place without jumping in with BS stories about lampshades, soap, and shrunken heads that he won't even admit are bogus. To reiterate--Jon Gold pursues me from site to site in order to harass me for the simple fact that it is my strongly held conviction that American Zionists and Israeli fascist nutjobs were behind 9/11.
I could care less that some people might, as you suggest, find that if indeed Israel was behind 9/11 they would rather not agitate for the truth to come out--that is their decision and not one that I have anything to do with. I also could care less if some people don't want to include an analysis of previous Zionist influenced historical myths in their own work on 9/11. That's their choice.
What will continue to disappoint me is how many people (like you and Jon) are so wedded to their irrational faith in false historical narratives that they pretend to be interested in 9/11 truth so as to defend those false narratives from scrutiny by others who have come to the similarly shocking understanding that 9/11 was falsified in order to promote the Zionist agenda.
The more you protest, the more Jon Gold obsesses about me and follows me around as my AIPAC/ADL shadower the more obvious it becomes that not only was 9/11 a Neocon/Zionist job, but that it is the ideological descendant of a series of Zionist myths and coverups.
Would it surprise people to know, for example, that JFK was killed in part because of his insistence that Israel open its Dimona nuclear plant to inspection and cease its efforts to pursue its clandestine nuclear weapons program? That by any current definition he would be classified as a raving anti-semite because of his opposition to Zionist dirty tricks?
If 9/11 truth was simply about catching Bush in an act of treason for profit it would long since have been exposed. Since instead it is the key to revealing an extremely damning pattern of deception that implicates Zionism (and Nazism and Communism) as projects of the global financial elite (those infamous bankers) that enrich themselves by directing nations and peoples into destructive wars that bankrupt the people while the bankers do business with both sides, it is opposed with an amazing amount of effort to infiltrate, sabotage, and misdirect its honest proponents.
That's where you and Jon Gold come in. Sure you'll tell people that Bush's family traded with Nazis, but you won't go into who all was helping them do so, since that would implicate the real power behind history--the Rothschild banking empire and its Warburg, Schiff, Rockefeller, and other branches--the hidden global "royalty" of power that intermarries like the nobles of old but whose goal is not national sovereignty but instead global domination, and who use Jews as their human shields.
Why do you think their program was published in a forged "Jewish conspiracy" format? So that it could be denied on the basis of racism, just like you all want to protect Larry Silverstein by implying that he is suspected not because he is a gangster like Meyer Lansky but because he is Jewish.
You can pretend all you want that I am actually saying this because in fact I hate Jews but by doing so you reveal that you are the ones that would seem to hate ordinary innocent Jewish people (the VAST majority) by forcing them into service as shields for a criminal conspiracy that just happens to have a few Jews at the top and plenty of non-Jews participating.)
I can't make it much more clear than that, but please, go on evading the issue and claiming things about me that you wish were true but aren't! Sooner than you think the people of the world who want peace, including the vast majority of the world's Jews, will understand how they have been lied to and used and will no longer listen to your divisive BS.
Wow, I respectfully agree to agree
nice job, G, cuttin' through the scheit like a hot mental knife through buttah.
thanks LT
in the end the answer is so simple. folow the freakin money. it's the bankers, stupid! specifically the European bankers. SO... I think we've solved an age old mystery... it's
The Protocols of the Bankers of Europe
in which they replaced bankers with Elders of Zion so as to hide behind the fact that the original Rothschilds happened to be Jewish.
Correcto
solved that prob, onto the next.
Nazis suck!
I guess people are reassure by clarity on this subject. In NO WAY do I condone Nazi behavior or philosophies! I am a HUGE fan of miscegenation myself--being Puerto Rican means knowing you are a mix of all kinds of things, and I embrace that and am honored to have as many different "races" genes wriggling around inside my cells. I am 100% mongrel and as such know for a fact that mixing races does not dilute any of them--it leads to hybrid vigor. My family reunions are a pallette of colors and races and that is something I treasure about my life.
I am unfortunately put in a position of being suspected of all kinds of horrid things because I insist on the truth, however impossible it may seem. There is simply no way to achieve the kind of world that I envision all of our descendants enjoying if we cling to ANY of these myths--they must be cast off completely or the game will never end.
If you think you can trust the government...
ask a Native American... If you can find one!
I guess one major contributing factor in my life long distrust of American authority is the Native American blood in my veins. My parents used to always talk of how our government tried to exterminate the American Indian. Guess I came by it honestly, as they say.
Might explain my love of the 'peace pipe' too. ;)