This is a good time

Annoymouse's picture

This juncture now should bring again to mind the need to improve this site,
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/
with the following:

- clarify its editorial policy;
- state the goals being served by the website clearly;
- state clearly the methods by which those goals are to be achieved;
- clarify in plain words its relationship (stance) toward some of the major themes, organizations and trends within the 9/11 Truth movement.
- add a page titled "About Us", or something like it, that would include a short history of the website, its founders and main contributors, and the path of its development.

This is a good time - some spiritually minded people might call it the "acceptable year of the Lord" - to take care of these things.

Why clarify the editorial policy?
Even though some introductory remarks at the top of the front page (the blog homepage) state some intentions, it is clear that the major contributors here are oriented in other directions. Also, even though editorial decisions and actions are taken, they are not openly acknowledged.

The degree to which this happens here is minor, in comparison to other Truth movement nodes, but there's no reason we can't improve, and no reason to be complacent with lack of transparency or inconsistency.

My experience so far has been that when these happen on this website they are due to well-intentioned mistakes and mistaken policies, lack of experience with open publishing in the realm of politics, and with some unexamined inner personal dynamics. All these can easily be cleared with an open heart and good conversation. So far, evil intentions and malevolence have been absent from the management of the
website.

But we are involved here within the public arena, within the realm of politics, indeed, with the biggest, most burning issue of September 11 which is a pivot around which the US Peace and Justice movement revolves (and/or remains paralyzed), while huge numbers of people around the globe are getting butchered because of it. The nature of these realities calls upon us to be more responsible in what we do and say - editorial direction and visible, transparent editorial process is essential to retaining the community of this website within the fold of the liberation process.

It was written here (on another page):
"...there is very little by way of an editorial policy here. this is not a site for diplomats or politicians--it is for freethinkers, humanists, idealists, visionaries, freedom fighters, hopeless romantics, iconoclasts, and yogis. it reflects the insanity of the times in which we live, yes. it is a safe space for those who desire frank discussion of difficult topics in good faith. there are no ads, no endorsements, no dues, no meetings, and sometimes I'm sure no readers! It's not a club, or a political party, or any other kind of association."
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1231#comment-11719

There's good intentions running through the above statement, but the truth is a little more complicated:
1. There IS an editorial activity here and it should be made more obvious to readers and writers. This will build more trust among us. I'd be happy to help with it, but more volunteers will be needed.
2. Unfortunately, the gentle and playful spirit in the quote above is essential but not sufficient to deal with the work of open publishing on 9/11. Most people who are "active" online around 9/11 Truth - and even more so, those who are active within our communities, in person, offline - need more cohesiveness and community building than is generally acknowledged. Good editorial policies in the flexible age of internet's open publishing technologies are essential approaches to building good community.

As far as I know, there are no other online venues at the moment within the Truth movement with the potential to serve the community - but this potential needs to be cultivated to take root. And if the network of people who are congealing around this website don't do it, who will?

Why state the goals being served by the website?
It's always fair and good to accept at face value the self-expressed words and claims that a person, an organization, or a publication uses to describe themselves. But what if after a while those words seem to be only the surface of a deeper situation?

The same applies to this website. The words posted right at the beginning, on the top banner of the homepage, create a rather inviting and all-embracing approach. But as we read on, we find that some of the main contributors here have other goals which are not stated openly at the beginning. Those become more apparent by where and how emotional emphasis is invested on some issues, perceptions, ideologies.

For example:
Some regular contributors here are motivated by the goal to "liberate"
the Unites States from what they perceive is a financial, military, political and cultural domination by Israel. If that is a goal of the website, it should be clearly stated at the beginning, so that visitors and writers here know what we are participating in. If that is not a goal, then it should be stated clearly by the editors/managers of the site. The amount of material on this website which reflects the above mentioned political goal is so much, that the editorial team has no other option but to state a position on it.

It may choose to avoid the responsibility of taking a position on it, but the reality of that political ideology will continue to determine everything here, whether stated or unstated.

Another example:
Some regular contributors here often write as if it is a "given" that blind and cartoonish versions of anti-communism, red-baiting and red-bashing injected here directly imported from the McCarthy era are the "normal", acceptable, commonly perceived ideology of "everyone". If that is the ideology of those who operate this website, it should be stated clearly. If it is not, then it should be stated clearly by the editors/managers of the site. The amount of material on this website which reflects the above mentioned political position is so much, that the editorial team has no other option but to state its position on it.

It may choose to avoid the responsibility of taking a position on it, but the reality of that political ideology will continue to determine everything here, whether stated or unstated.

Of course, Truthers who find it so easy to ridicule others for accepting the Official version of 911 ("but I formed my opinion by watching Corporate Television") are accountable for their politics on other things, as well. Oh, you were able to "free your mind" about September 11 and that somehow gave you confirmation that everything you thought you knew about Socialism which you learned from Corporate Television, from Hollywood, from the US educational system and other forms of social indoctrination ...have always been correct?

Back to the goals: at least in regard to September 11 and the Truth on 9/11, what do we want?

Some people want a new investigation to be carried out by the US ruling class or US Government; some Truthers want Court trials; some want Court-martials. Some Truthers want new candidates to be elected who can change things - but what changes do we want to see in our society? Some Truthers want very sweeping reforms of the US political system; some
want reforms in wider areas like the economy, education, healthcare, immigration policy, the electoral system; some Truthers want a radical change at the very root of society, a transformation of the very foundations of social, political, economic structure and of all human relations within it. Others go even further and want to see the whole of the US Empire toppled, or even further, recognizing that the Empire is no longer an "all American" construct but a global system of interpenetrating financial, industrial, military and political interests, some Truthers want to see all of Imperium subverted and
replaced by a global peoples' democracy. All of the above spring directly from 9/11 Truth, depending how Truthers see and feel it: which of these goals (or others) are embraced by the operators of this website?

Why state the methods by which those goals are to be achieved?
There are endless variations of possible and feasible action within the realm of politics. There's elections, debates, journalism, publishing, there's community organizing, educational campaigns, boycotts, rallies and marches, protest gatherings. There's civil disobedience, direct action, labour strikes, occupations, street fighting, passive resistance, militant pacifism, armed struggle. Both reformist and revolutionary campaigns utilize all of the above.

Which of these methods are embraced by the editors and managers of this website?

There is constant commentary here by the regular community of participants at http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/ on every type of political methods being applied by various other activists, organizations and movements. But the point of view from which those are being addressed is not stated.

For example, some of us rightly support and embrace the armed resistance that was heroically put up against Israel by the people of Lebanon, and we also have the clarity to recognize that the moral and political leadership of that resistance, Hezbollah, needs to improve on its ideology and practices regarding gender politics, sexual liberation
and class politics. Its open hostility to gay people and its negative stance toward emancipated women and Socialists are less toxic than that of fundamentalist reactionary forces in Iran or the Talibans, but it needs to be seen in a clear light.

The same applies to the Iraqi Resistance. Regardless of whether the 9/11 Truth movement or the US Peace movement ever get their shit together or not, the Iraqi Resistance is real, it is an actual force active in the world right now, and it's going to win the war. Which elements of that victory do we support?

What exactly are the points of departure from which we critique other people's resistance to US Imperialism, Israeli Zionism, racism, sexism and homophobia within the US? What exactly is our point of departure for our own resistance to US Imperialism, Israeli Zionism, racism, sexism and homophobia? If we want our bonds with domestic and foreign
friends and allies of this website to be genuine, we need to take our politics with genuine responsibility as well.

Why clarify the relationship (stance) toward the major themes, organizations and trends within the 9/11 Truth movement?

If it's not clear from the title, this should clarify it: beams from outer space; UFO action against the Twin Towers; no planes at the World Trade Center; no planes at the Pentagon; no plane (or too many planes) in Pennsylvania; validity of physical evidence for the investigations; validity of circumstantial evidence; role of foreign Governments; role of domestic and foreign agents of the ruling class; role of the US Government; the role of George Bush ...all these and more are concepts, claims and issues begging to be reckoned with.

If the website is to better serve the wider 9/11 Truth community it needs to state in plain words (not just ironic or satyrical statements)what its positions are. They don't have to be perfect or eternal positions. But they need to be stated and easily accessible in order to help as a "reality check", and as a marker of progress. Above all such a set of clarifying statements has medicinal and morale-boosting value for all Truthers, even for those who might disagree - clarity, per se, is always of great value.

Why add a page titled "About Us"?
...or something like it?

A page like that should have a short history of the website, information about its founders and main contributors, and the path of its development. Also a Statement of Values and Principles - here's an excellent example of one:
http://rethink911.org/

It would also have links to pages with the Editorial Policy, the Goals and Methods embraced by the website management, and to a write up on its Relationship to various 9/11 Truth realities, issues, etc.

A page titled "About Us" is an immediate orientation tool that's very handy for new and old visitors to any website. Every site that respects its visitors and friends makes an effort to have something like it.

It also provides a challenge to its authors, something like a contract with our friends and visitors that includes a code of ethics and guidelines by which we pledge to operate.

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The current juncture, during which mass expulsions of Truthers are taking place on other websites and campaigns of harassment and stalking are being aimed at some of us, is a good time to actualizing all of the above.

I'd be happy to help out with this work. Please write to me about it.

Thanks,
Petros Evdokas
petros@cyprus-org.net
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
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petros's picture

The "Acceptable Year"

The "Acceptable Year" is a reference to Isaiah 61:1-2:

1 The Spirit of the Divine and Sovereign ALL is on me,
because the ALL has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.

Has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,

2 to proclaim the year of the Divine and Sovereign ALL 's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn...

Petros
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casseia's picture

Petros, to take as one example:

"Some regular contributors here often write as if it is a 'given' that blind and cartoonish versions of anti-communism, red-baiting and red-bashing injected here directly imported from the McCarthy era are the 'normal', acceptable, commonly perceived ideology of 'everyone'."

This seems to be a reference to the thread in which Lazlo made a remark about "communist fucks" which he then clarified at length. Did you read his clarification? Will you please address it rather than making blanket statements about users in general, here? Also, the comment in that thread to which you responded *directly* was in fact someone *disputing* what Lazlo and clarifying some history about Trotsky and his followers.

If there is another example of red-baiting on this site, you need to bring my attention to it. Right now, it seems to be a problem based on less-than-attentive reading on your part.

casseia's picture

Petros, here are the links

First, here is the link to the anonymous post that was (in my reading) intending to rebut Lazlo's "communist fuck" comment. Although your response is further down in the thread, I think this is the one to which you were responding:

http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1246#comment-11763

If you read it again, you will see that it has nothing to do with red-baiting.

Here is the comment from Lazlo clarifying his original "communist fuck" remark. As he addresses you by name in it, I hope you will take the time to read it and consider it.

http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1246#comment-11781

gretavo's picture

What you call red-baiting I

What you call red-baiting I call criticism. If that criticism is unfounded people are welcome to rebut it, and people have in fact done just that. I can appreciate some of your intent with all of your suggestions, Petros, but at the same time I think you need to appreciate that free, liberated people like us don't really like rules and excessive formality. Also, a lot of the values you extol are perfectly good things, but not necessarily right for this site. Some other place, or some other time maybe, but not here and not now. As far as I'm concerned, you mischaracterize this as an online movement. I do most of my moving in person with real people. I talk a little bit about that on this site but for the most part I keep it to myself because that makes it more difficult for the opposition. To mistake this particular facet of the activism of any of the individuals who participate here is simply wrongheaded. This is a fragment of a much larger and more complex campaign that will succeed precisely because it is smart enough--not because it is considerate enough to the visitors to this site. I could go on at length as to the specific tactics and strategies that I employ in struggle but I would be a fool to do so in public or with anyone who I do not know and trust 100%. While you may have plenty of experience with what you call the liberation struggle, I have to say that I'm not overly impressed by anything being accomplished by any such movements or ideologies, including the mainstream left, antiwar groups, etc. The difference between those movements and what I consider myself a part of is that I fully expect and intend to succeed, so that we won't be here 50 years from now bemoaning the same old crap people were bemoaning 100 years ago.

whitey's picture

Given every thing that has

Given every thing that has happened at sites like 911B I think things are going well here and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think what may prove to be even more fruitful and rewarding for you might be to start another truth site. With sites getting compromised we can never have too many. It would also give you the ability to enact your own vision for presenting the truth and catering to your audience. Personally, I have never had enough to say to feel like I could run my own site or garner an audience but you have a way with words.

How bout it Petros?

Jpass's picture

New Site Anyone?

Anyone have ideas for a new site? I am all up for helping launch a new site. The larger the web of interlocking sites the better. I can do most of the web / graphic design.

gretavo's picture

contrary to what some may think

I would very much welcome a new site. Like you say JPass, the larget the network of interlocking sites the stronger we as real, honest truthers are. I also have no problem whatsoever with the notion that WTCD is not an ideal "big tent" site because yes, I insist on not just allowing but indeed encouraging skepticism on sensitive and admittedly marginally 9/11 truth related issues. Please count on my support and participation!

gretavo's picture

so do we call a constitutional convention?

How about we start off with a forum on some ready to go blogging site to begin hashing out ideas? That way we establish from the outset that the new site is NOT an "offshoot of WTCD"? If you build it, we will come!

casseia's picture

Hey Jpass

I've been contemplating a new site for quite some time (no surprise to anyone who has noticed the strained relationship between me and gretavo ;p). Actually, what I've been thinking about is a very ground-up newbie-oriented informational site for folks such as my boyfriend of 20 years ago who bills himself on FaceBook as "too smart to watch television" but finds the 9/11 Commission Report "completely credible." I bought a domain for this a few months ago and have been hosting it at an expensive "modular" host since my web design skills are limited to very basic html. (Right now the only material on it pertains to the Portland activists I work with.)

gretavo's picture

dunno... but...

it seems that banning user IPs seems to clear up ISE issues somewhat. I may be paranoid but does everyone run malware detectors? I ask because the access logs showed some weird stuff from IPs that have turned out to be regular user IPs... it MAY be that bad traffic is being routed through your computer if it's "unclean"...

gretavo's picture

ok sorry!

everyone's IPs have been unbanned. not sure what's causing ISE's to be so bad today, but have contacted a few of you with logs, etc. for advice!

Big_D's picture

First ISE I received today was after login.

Just thought I'd add to the weirdness. Even stranger (not so when you consider the intent of this blog) this is the only site I ever see any ISE errors. The Shill / disinfo sites run like clockwork.