Richard Gage, AE911truth.org, Demands Retraction From Simon Wiesenthal Center - Asks "What Are You Afraid Of?"

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I know Richard won't say this, and it's probably good for him not to, but I think we know why the Simon Wiesenthal Center of all places has gone to such lengths (i.e. defamation, libel, and slander) to discourage a review of the 9/11 crimes. And I don't think it's to protect Saudi Arabia and Patsystan...

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Hetware's picture

The opinion of Walter Lüftl would be of interest

The opinion of Walter Lüftl would be of interest regarding the integrity and forthrightness of the SWC.


Meet the Real Al Qaeda

Witnesses testified about terrorist groups using the Internet to recruit and radicalize their followers. Topics included illustrations of propaganda used on Internet sites, instructions for making bombs, the role of al-Qaeda, appealing to young people, counterterrorism through positive sites, and other solutions.

The counterterrorists are the terrorists. The real al Qaeda consists of those we find testifying before Congress.

kate of the kiosk's picture

i know very little about holocaust revisionism or the latest

research. perhaps one more informed than I could elucidate....

Hetware's picture

Lüftl _was_ President of Austrian Chamber of Engineers

If I am not mistaken, Werner Rademacher is a pseudonym of the political prisoner Germar Rudolf.

The Case of Walter Lüftl

Contemporary History and the Justice System

WERNER RADEMACHER

1. Introduction

In Germany, in the early spring of February 1992, many Austrian and German newspapers dailies[1] reported the resignation of the President of the Federal Austrian Chamber of Engineers, Walter Lüftl, who stepped down from his prestigious position after voicing doubts about the Holocaust. Things calmed down fairly quickly in Germany, while in Austria a fair-sized scandal ensued. The President of the Federal Chamber of Engineers, it was alleged, had expressed 'Nazi' sentiments, and cries for the public prosecutor were to be heard.

More sensible and aware persons, however, perked up their ears, since, after all, an engineer and many-thousand-time forensic expert witness from Austria's high society must surely have had his reasons if he questioned the technical feasibility of some aspects of the Holocaust.

Insiders had realized as early as winter 1991 that something was in the wind, since Lüftl had already published preliminary hints in the engineering paper Konstruktiv that not all was right with some historical eyewitness testimony. He did not at that time make reference to the Holocaust, leaving it up to the reader instead to make the connection based on the facts and questions raised.[2]

The basic legal principles of a state under the rule of law demand that subject experts sworn in by the state must accord greater significance to material evidence than to any eyewitness accounts. Lüftl, being such an expert and acting in accordance with this logical stipulation, was more than a little surprised to realize that the generally accepted qualitative hierarchy of evidence appears to be reversed where the Holocaust is concerned: historiography of the Holocaust is dominated by the eyewitness testimony which, he found, frequently does not stand up to expert criticism, but which is nevertheless accepted unquestioningly and is given precedence over the material findings of experts.

He was also surprised to find that the courts take "judicial notice" of the events of the Holocaust as described by eyewitnesses - i.e., they consider these accounts to be self-evident and proven facts - not only in order to obviate the need for their formal proof and thus to spare themselves the bother of bringing evidence for these events, but that they also make use of this "judicial notice" in order to deny the opposing side the right to bring evidence to the contrary. Lüftl considers this practice to be a violation of human rights, since judicial notice should be taken only of such matters as are also undisputed by both prosecution and defense - such as water is wet, fire is hot, and ice is cold. However, as soon as there is any justified and reasonable dispute of any point, such a point must be open to discussion.

Does someone hiding behind rulings of judicial notice not in fact reveal that he does not care to know the truth if it differs from the traditional version (that which is 'desirable from the perspective of public education'), and that he wishes to keep this truth, by whatever means, from those who would prefer to see actual knowledge replace blind faith? Surely someone who is truly convinced that the official truth corresponds to his truth has nothing to fear from any material evidence proffered, which after all he ought to be easily able to refute. But the forensic reality with respect to the Holocaust is that any and all dissenting evidence proffered is dismissed from the start as being "pseudo-scientific". Truth is the sole province of the status quo. 'Everything has been proved a thousand times over. Arguments to the contrary have been refuted ad nauseam', goes the hollow standard objection, which is simply not true. This arbitrarily assigned self-evidence is the muzzle that is put on truth.
2. Austria's Special Laws

inside's picture

RT, in case you have missed

RT, in case you have missed col jenny's retarded video, here is a link..

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13337#comment-174322

they had to take the thread down over at truthaction.. HAHAH!!!

Tahooey's picture

WTF did i just watch?

I watched the video posted by Col Jenny; saw an appearance of this here site, and I guess the implication was that this site exists primarily as a capitalist enterprise hocking WTCdemo goods?

Also saw an appearance of Winterpatriot's blog - excellent!

But what was the text that appeared briefly a couple times? I don't have the patience to pause this crap, is she trying to send out subliminal messages? If she's trying to say something more than her "goodbye big tent" she really oughta annotate that. Anyway, that blue guitar looked cool.

casseia's picture

The premise of the video

is to catalogue all the "people who hurt 9/11 Truth" and say goodbye to them and make them go away. Except some people have misinterpreted her inclusion of the Jersey Girls -- she's not saying goodbye to them according to a clarification on her blog. Winterpatriot is supposed to go bye-bye. Did you realize that not only is there a screenshot that totally busts us for pernicious capitalism, but there's a clip of RT from his own video "A Day in the Life of Real Truther"? He should go away, according to Jenny.

As inside mentions, this was over at Truthaction for a while. I also commented on it here:
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/608#comment-6243

gretavo's picture

Col. Jenny, the Army of One

Someday someone might be able to explain to me what makes this person tick, but my reaction may well be Col. who? I think she's the only person that she actually matters to...

kate of the kiosk's picture

and Leland is on this, too!!!

shameful stupid divisive video.

PatrickSMcNally@aol.com's picture

> If I am not mistaken,

> If I am not mistaken, Werner Rademacher is a pseudonym of the political prisoner Germar Rudolf.

That much is a mistake. The present English edition of DISSECTING THE HOLOCAUST, which Germar Rudolf edited and put together, contains contributions from both Rademacher and Rudolf each under their own separate names.

http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/

Rudolf had for a time used the pen name of "Ernst Gauss." This was obviously a composite derivative from the names of Ernst Zundel and Karl Friedrich Gauss.