Where's Wally?

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There's a bizarre argument about the alleged hijackers (comprising for the most part variations on "I know you are but what am I") going on late in the thread called "Space Beams in London" at True Faction and centered on the identity -- and the vitality or lack thereof -- of alleged hijacker Waleed al-Shehri and his cohorts. That is, are some of the "hijackers" still alive? This issue is inevitably mis-framed by the fake truth crowd, which clings to the hope that what is being said (by real truthers) is "Holy crap, some of the hijackers were evacuated from the planes (after mercilessly stabbing a bunch of infidels) the way Harrison Ford got off the plane in the movie Airforce One." Of course, the real allegation is that the FBI (or some other entity) carelessly threw together a list of real Arabic identities with photographs and released them without regard for the possibility that at least one of said Arabic identities was attached to a real person who was not dead.

 

Gold and Albanese's M.O. in that thread (with Pavlovian Dogcatcher playing the foil in a classic straw-man gangbang scene) is to seize upon the misunderstandings surrounding the "Waleed was found alive" story put out (by the suspect BBC) as a way of establishing their superiority over PD, after which they essentially endorse wholesale the official hijacker narrative. Here's Gold in indignant mode after Albanese and PD have set the stage:

Jon Gold
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 1048

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject:

You never hear about things like this, this, this, this, or this in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Indications that there may very well have been hijackers. This kind of information should dictate that individuals shouldn't state as fact that there were no hijackers.

The first "this" is a link to this from the "Terror Timeline" at historycommons:

August 25-September 5, 2001: Hijackers Spend Over $30,000 on 9/11 Tickets

All the hijackers book their flights for 9/11, using their apparent real names. The total cost of the tickets is in excess of $30,000:
bullet August 25: Khalid Almihdhar, who was watchlisted two days previously (see August 23, 2001), and Majed Moqed book tickets for American Airlines flight 77 using the AA.com website. They are collected from the American Airlines ticket counter at Baltimore Washington International Airport on September 5. The tickets were not mailed, because the shipping address did not match the credit card address. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 72, 74 ]
bullet August 26: Wail Alshehri buys a ticket for American Airlines flight 11 over the phone with his debit card. His brother Waleed buys a ticket for the same flight at the AA.com website using his debit card. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ; US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 72 ]
bullet August 27: Nawaf Alhazmi, who was watchlisted four days before (see August 23, 2001), buys tickets for himself and his brother Salem for American Airlines flight 77 through Travelocity from a Kinkos computer in Laurel, Maryland, using his debit card (see August 25-27, 2001). [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ; US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 72 ]
bullet August 27: Saeed Alghamdi uses his debit card to purchase tickets for United Airlines flight 93 for himself and Ahmed Alnami from the UA.com website. The tickets are not paid for until September 5, 2001, due to a problem with the debit card. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 72 ]
bullet August 27: Fayez Ahmed Banihammad uses his visa card to purchase tickets for himself and Mohamed Alshehri for United Airlines flight 175 over the telephone. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 72-73 ; US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ]
bullet August 28: Mohamed Atta uses his debit card to buy tickets for American Airlines flight 11 for himself and Abdulaziz Alomari from the AA.com website. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ]
bullet August 28: Waleed Alshehri purchases a ticket for Satam Al Suqami for American Airlines flight 11 in person from the company’s counter at Fort Lauderdale Airport. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 73 ]
bullet August 28: Marwan Alshehhi purchases a ticket for United Airlines flight 175 from the company’s counter at Miami International Airport. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ; US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 73 ]
bullet August 29: Hamza Alghamdi books tickets for himself and Ahmed Alghamdi for United Airlines flight 175 from the UA.com website. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ]
bullet August 29: Ahmed Alhaznawi creates a new e-mail account and Travelocity.com account and uses them to book a ticket for himself on United Airlines flight 93. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ; US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006, pp. 74 ]
bullet August 30: Ziad Jarrah purchases a ticket for himself for United Airlines flight 93 from the UA website. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ]
bullet August 31: Hani Hanjour purchases a ticket for American Airlines flight 77 from ATS Advanced Travel Services in Totowa, New Jersey, paying in cash. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006 ]
At least five tickets are one way only. [Los Angeles Times, 9/18/2001] There are numerous connections between the hijackers booked on the four flights by this point:
bullet Hijackers on different 9/11 flights arrived in the US on the same plane. For example, Salem Alhazmi (Flight 77) arrived with Abdulaziz Alomari (Flight 11), and Fayez Ahmed Banihammad (Flight 175) arrived with Saeed Alghamdi (Flight 93) (see April 23-June 29, 2001);
bullet Two of the pilots, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi, train and live together, and have a joint bank account (see (Mid-July 2000 - Early January 2001), July 6-December 19, 2000, and June 28-July 7, 2000);
bullet Hijackers from different planes open bank accounts together (see May 1-July 18, 2001 and June 27-August 23, 2001); and
bullet The hijackers obtain identity documents together (see April 12-September 7, 2001 and August 1-2, 2001).
Six hijackers also provide the same phone number and three use the same address. [Miami Herald, 9/22/2001]

The primary source above is this prosecution exhibit from the laughable Moussaoui trial:

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/ST00001A.pdf

The document amounts to a series of claims backed up by scanty if any evidence, having, moreover, nothing at all to do with the person on trial (Moussaoui). It is a document that purports to establish the hijacker narrative pre-9/11 and may represent a complete fabrication or perhaps a moderately accurate description of the actions of patsies or impostors (think "Dubai hit", maybe?). What it is not, and what Jon Gold and John Albanese try to pawn it off as, is proof that there were real Arab Muslim hijackers who took control of the alleged flights cited in the OCT.

The problem for the Jo(h)ns' approach of course is that there are many more reasons than the Waleed al-Shehri confusion to consider the official hijacker narrative a half-baked farce. We can begin to understand this by studying the exhaustive work already done on the subject by David Ray Griffin. Here are two excerpts from his books that anyone discussing the merits of the hijacker narrative should read and internalize:

9/11 Contradictions Chapter 16

New Pearl Harbor Revisited Excerpt from Ch. 6