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Jesse Ventura on The View – (03/10/2010)

Ventura too bold for Huffington Post

Huffington Post Kills Jesse Ventura’s Piece On 9/11

Jesse Ventura on The View – (03/10/2010)

Ventura too bold for Huffington Post

Huffington Post Kills Jesse Ventura’s Piece On 9/11

The Huffington Post, a site that I visit numerously, and appreciate the work that its doing, recently banned an opinion piece by Jesse Ventura that focuses on the many inconsistencies and errors in the official 9/11 story, and raises troubling questions about the role that the government played in the attacks. In place of Ventura’s article, which can be read in full here, the editors of The Huffington Post posted a note that described their reasoning for deleting the piece:

Editor’s Note: The Huffington Post’s editorial policy, laid out in our blogger guidelines, prohibits the promotion and promulgation of conspiracy theories — including those about 9/11. As such, we have removed this post.

Obviously, The Huffington Post has the right to restrict any opinion which it views as being out of line with its editorial policy, but after showing such a prejudice towards “conspiracy theories,” they can’t be held as a beacon of free speech and free thought, as a place where thinkers converge to test their ideas and theories. They are officially in the censorship business. Bill Maher, who stormed out 9/11 questioners from his show a few years ago, is also in that business. Of course, he too had all the right to do what he did, but he was a coward for doing it. And so are the editors on The Huffington Post. William E. Borah, “The Lion of Idaho,” professed: “I look upon those who would deny others the right to urge and argue their position, however irksome and pernicious they may seem, as intellectual and moral cowards.”

For some reason, one article in favor of the non-government version of 9/11 slipped by the HuffPost censors, and has remained on the site since it was published on March 7. It’s called “Ahmadinejad says U.S is lying about Sept 11 attacks,” by Mike Green. I guess if the president of a religious dictatorship says 9/11 was an inside job then it’s okay, but if a former Governor of Minnesota questions the attacks then the editors of Huff-n-Puff get scared and retreat to the lines of “respectable” debate that have been drawn by the government. But it isn’t just Ahmadinejad or Ventura who have publicly voiced their rejection of the official story, but fire fighters, 9/11 first responders, family members of the victims, former government officials, scientists, architects, engineers, and millions of ordinary Americans. As Green writes:

Ironically, the Iranian president is merely voicing the sentiment of the American people on a platform loud enough for someone in Washington to actually hear it. Any obfuscation or dismissal of Ahmadinejad’s question ultimately results in a dismissal of the voices of the American people who also seek answers to lingering questions about Sept. 11.

Refusing to even contemplate the evidence that has been gathered by various scholars in the 9/11 truth movement is a slap to the face of every American, and every human being living on this planet. At least a third of Americans believe the government orchestrated the attack, or had prior knowledge of an impeding terrorist attack, which should be enough to raise doubt in the minds of the editors of The Huffington Post. Simply calling these conspiracy theorists crazy is a great offense, and a tragic mistake. Sadly, it reflects the madness that is prevalent in mainstream American culture.

People who believe in the government’s version of 9/11 imagine that there is a well of paranoia in American culture, in which poor souls have fallen into; a deep bottom where insane individuals are unable to get back to the top and think clearly again because they are mired in conspiracy rubble, and are banished from all light. According to these “rationalists”, the US government isn’t capable of murder and treachery, nor does it have the resources to keep relevant information from the public sphere about such an important event as 9/11. But if I may ask politely, what world are these people living in? Haven’t they heard of Hiroshima? Vietnam? Iran-Contra? However unpopular it may be, it is a fact is that the American government is capable of murdering innocent people, committing treachery, and lying to the world. It has done all of those of things, and more. It is barbaric, and worse.

The worldview of people who are committed to the government version of events is anti-scientific because it claims that government authorities and media spokespersons always fall on the side of reality when reality is in question. They can never be wrong, or ever lie to the public, and if you believe otherwise, then you endorse crazy theories and conspiratorial misconceptions. But one look at history, and you’ll learn that governments lie most of the time, especially powerful governments that have institutional resources like the CIA, FBI, NSA, FEMA, and Homeland Security. We don’t need to go back too far to give an example of a government conspiracy theory that crumbled in the sight of the truth. Not long ago, it was believed that Saddam had WMDs, and people who questioned the so-called evidence were called conspiracy theorists. But those “conspiracy theorists” turned out to be right. Those same “conspiracy theorists,” that Cass Sunstein, head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration, wants to shut up and covertly undermine.

The cover-up of 9/11 will be known in due time, but sites like The Huffington Post are still reluctant to get the cat out of the bag. So what are they afraid of? That the country will never be the same if it is found true that the government was in fact behind 9/11? Well, I got news for them. . . America has never been the same since 9/11. Personal freedoms have been eradicated. The right to protest is no longer upheld. Americans are under constant surveillance. Wall St. Banks are looting the people’s wealth. And the country is mired in two immoral and criminal wars. There is no going back to September 10, 2001. Millions of innocent people have died. The question facing us is how are we going to respond? Shut off debate, and pretend the controversy doesn’t exist, or find answers?

A popular rebuttal to the non-government version of 9/11 is that Bush is stupid so he couldn’t possibly have done it. But that argument immediately falls on its face because it is never suggested that Bush was the sole conspirator in the 9/11 attacks, as if he is some kind of American Bin Laden. Conspiracies are called conspiracies for a reason, more than one person is involved. People that believe the Bush administration wasn’t competent enough to pull off a false flag attack must recognize that an entirely secret network of spies, military fascists, and government operatives sprung up after WWII, and they are well endowed to perform such a complicated procedure when called upon. They represent a black shadow over American democracy. So referring to “administrations” as if they are the only guiders of the country is wrong. The nation’s foreign and domestic policy has been consistently corporatist and militaristic in the past forty years, ever since the death of JFK. The Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations have been years of outrage. Voting in another democrat or republican in 2012 is akin to injecting another heavy dose of poison into an already dying patient.

I hope Arianna Huffington and The Huffington Post realize what is at stake. Freedom, justice, and truth, are all hanging in the balance. News censorship and cultural ridicule represents a shrinking wrap on the public mind. The internet is the only breathing hole we have left. If The Huffington Post wants to be recognized as a true journalistic platform in the coming years then it must heed the words of Charles Bradlaugh, Frederick Douglass, and Noam Chomsky.

“If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.” - Noam Chomsky

David Ray Griffin weighed in on the Jesse Ventura/Huffington Post matter (Huffgate?) at Mark Crispin Miller’s website, to the effect that:

”[A] conspiracy theory is simply a theory that posits a conspiracy – a secret plan on the part of some group to influence events by partly secret means.” (Charles Pigden, “Conspiracy Theories and the Conventional Wisdom,” Episteme, 4 (2007), 219-32, Sect. 2.)….So, in telling us that the 9/11 attacks resulted from a conspiracy between Osama bin Laden and 19 members of his al-Qaeda organization, Bush and Cheney clearly articulated a conspiracy theory. They and Sunstein, of course, call it a true theory; but all conspiracy theorists claim that their theories are true.

In any case, the HP did not say that it accepted true conspiracy theories and excluded only false ones (and to do this, they would need to do an enormous amount of research). They said they avoid “lending credibility to any conspiracy theories”….What the HP policy amounts to is excluding any allegations that our own government has orchestrated any conspiracy. So they would have had to exclude all allegations about Tonkin Gulf being a hoax; ditto about the Watergate break in; ditto for WMD in Iraq (recall “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy”?); ditto for the claim that Saddam helped al-Qaeda with the 9/11 attacks; and so on.

Click here to read the comment in its entirety.

I was so annoyed by Grffin’s sophistry that I was moved to post the following rejoinder:

Let’s not play games with semantics. “Conspiracy Theory” does mean something, and it doesn’t mean–as Conspiracy Theorists disingenuously accuse their debunkers of meaning–that anyone who believes in conspiracies is disreputable or a nut. Of course there have been and always will be conspiracies, many of them carried out by people in governments.

Most people understand it in the sense that Karl Popper defined “the conspiracy theory of society” in The Open Society and its Enemies (1952), as “the view that an explanation of a social phenomenon consists in the discovery of the men or groups who are interested in the occurrence of this phenomenon…and who have planned and conspired to bring it about.” Popper went on to attribute this way of thinking to “the secularization of…religious superstition.”

Conspiracy Theory, in other words, is 1) A way of thinking, as opposed to a particular thought; one that presumes causes from their supposed effects; 2) It is a way of thinking that imposes a totalizing, ideologically inflected template on its subject; and 3) One that has more in common with the inductive methods of theology than the deductive methods of science.

Wearing his theologian’s hat, David Ray Griffin has written about the evils of the notion of American Exceptionalism. 9/11 denial provides him with a counter-narrative with which to attack it.

“9/11 serves as a revelation of the nature of the American empire—an empire that has been in the making, on a bipartisan basis, for a long time. 9/11 reveals the nature of the values that have underlay this empire-building project for over a century, especially the past 60 years,” he wrote in “9/11, American Empire, and Christian Faith.”(http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/911-american-empire-and-christian-faith/). “We must ask whether the term “evil,” which US leaders have used so freely to describe other nations, must be applied to our own. There can be no doubt about the application of this term to 9/11. We can here quote President Bush himself, who on the evening of 9/11 said: “”Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror. . . . Today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature.” No explanation of why the attacks were despicable was necessary. The proposition was self-evident. This proposition is even more self-evident, of course, if the attacks were orchestrated by our own government.”

And again: “As these parallels between Roman and American imperialism show, we can speak of the latter as evil without even bringing 9/11 into the picture. But the awareness that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out to further America’s global domination project, and hence increase global apartheid, helps us, as I have suggested elsewhere, to “fully grasp the extent to which this project is propelled by fanaticism based on a deeply perverted value system.” 9/11 can thereby serve as a wake-up call to Christians in America, forcing us to ask how to respond to the realization that we are citizens of the new Rome.”

I would venture that Griffin didn’t write his 9/11 books and take to the hustings because he read about nano-thermite or because he timed the buildings’ velocities of collapse or because he noticed a devastating hole in one official account or another. He began with a narrative about the American imperium, then he gathered together whatever forensic evidence he could to support it–evidence that remains so thin, so inconsistent, so circumstantial, that most thoughtful people regard 9/11 Denial as a “conspiracy theory” rather than a conspiracy that is being exposed.

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We don’t get cable TV anymore, which is mostly a good thing. I wish I could watch Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert before I go to bed and I really miss C-SPAN, but at least I don’t have to look into Wolf Blitzer’s smirking face every night–or have my blood pressure spike when I pass Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly when I’m changing channels. CNN is actually the reason we disconnected. My wife worked there for years and she couldn’t wait to get it out of our house when she quit. The guys came and took the box away Labor Day week, 2001. It wasn’t much later that we didn’t have any TV at all except what we could find on UHF, because we live in Brooklyn and the TV antenna was on top of the World Trade Center, which we used to look at from our living room window.

Which is a long-winded way of saying that I haven’t been able to watch any of Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory shows. I read about them, of course, and I watched some interviews on line. There was nothing new there for me, but then again, I’m up to my neck in this stuff. The promos were pretty off-putting to me–too histrionic, too loaded–but some of the interviews were intriguing. Jesse Ventura may be a grandiloquent showman and an egomaniac, but he’s not dumb; if I listen to him long enough, I agree with quite a few of the things he says.

I just went to Amazon to check out the tie-in book that came out this week (it’s #7), and I practically fell out of my chair when I read this five star review from Mark Crispin Miller. Headlined “A Brave and Necessary Book” (click here), Miller doesn’t so much endorse the book’s conclusions (“I doubt that the book’s authors would want anyone just to swallow everything they say (unlike rabble-rousers like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, who do promote “conspiracy theories” without any basis in reality)” so much as he attacks the “mainstream voices, both far-right and ‘liberal’” who would rather that we not even consider them for ourselves.

Miller is a writer I genuinely admire; I wondered if something wasn’t up. I checked out his own website, “News From Underground” and found out. Miller, who has written extensively on Republican election fraud, liked what Ventura and his co-writer said about the subject–and about the rumors that Mike Connell, a Republican cyber-consultant who died in a plane crash shortly after a judge compelled him to testify about vote tampering, might have been murdered. He was appalled that the Huffington Post had taken down his blog about 9/11 Truth the other day.

Clearly, even to question the official story of 9/11 is to engage in “conspiracy theories” (as if the official story weren’t itself a “conspiracy theory,” and a preposterous one at that). Such is always the response of the US mainstream media (the foreign media tends to be more open-minded)–and it’s also the response of our left/liberal media, as this amazing act of censorship makes clear.

Miller posted Ventura’s piece so we can make up our minds for ourselves. I read it and, like I said about the show promos, there wasn’t much new there for me and certainly nothing that would change my mind about 9/11 Truth. I am beginning to think of Jones and Gage as grandiloquent showmen too.

If I were a magazine editor I wouldn’t have wanted to pay Ventura for such a tired piece. I’ve posted a few pieces at Huffington and I know they reserve the right to reject what you write; they moderate comments too. I disagree with Miller that the piece wasn’t “conspiracy theory.” But then again blogs are supposed to be personal and opinionated; if they’re going to be of any interest, they shouldn’t be treated like copy.

Miller has been debunking the myth of the liberal media since Boxed In. The mainstream media is all about consensus, he says, about creating a safe zone for consumerism. Blogs are supposed to be different.

I’m not worried that Jesse Ventura won’t find a venue to express his opinions and get paid handsomely for doing so, but I wish that the Huffington Post hadn’t pulled him. I’m not sure that I’m outraged, but I can’t deny that I’m disappointed.

Ive been there. Yea, on the side of the 9/11 truth deniers. Maybe I should explain…..

I originally was introduced to what is now-the truth movement back in 2001 by one of my more serious conspiracy theory friends. (a big sci-fi/ufo junkie) I had already been somewhat interested in the genre because of similar issues. I was what you could call, a fan of William Coopers. I never really took his alien claims all that serious, but he had a wealth of other information we fans of conspiracy theory love. Ive also watched a few of David Ickes films, which while 70% is ‘mainstream’ conspiracy, the other 30% is filled with reptilian alien-shape shifting insanity.

Ya know its funny what you can remember….Have you ever had a grandparent tell you that what you were learning in Social Studies/History class, was wrong? At the time, you figure – eh? maybe my grandfather is forgetting it wrong because thats not whats in my textbook….right? Somehow, this simple generality -and yes, it is a generality- can change the way you look at historic events. It can help you see news headlines and articles differently. It can even help you see trends in what the news covers world-wide.

Anyway……..back to 9/11 truth. I began by looking online at the claims the truthers presented….and found that not all of them were illogical questions. And, you know what else? Their questions have no answers. Their questions wont even be debated by the main stream media. Just why is that?

Why cant we have a civil discussion on our main stream media?

Why is history being changed in front of our eyes? Doesnt anyone remember things that our media told us and how they have attempted to change what was said?

I invite you to watch the video below. And even if you do beleive the 9/11 Commission Report (despite Chairs saying it was set up to fail) at least see what the debate is about.

Russia Today’s CrossTalk. (25 minutes long)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avtvrtTV1vw&feature=player_embedded

Jesse Ventura has become a non-stop truth machine in the media, going on all the networks to plug his latest bestseller American Conspiracies. He is courageously educating the American public about the criminal government in Washington, and its many dirty works. God bless him.

On Larry King

On NBC Today Show

On Fox News

On The Young Turks

On The View

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The road ahead will be a challenge.

In 2007 the call went out.  Thanks to the Internet many were informed of a radically different presidential candidate aspiring to be elected in 2008.  It was a candidate who spoke directly to fundamental problems that mainstream media and politicians had long ago capitulated to, and in some cases, defended.

Ron Paul, a Republican, no less, offered hope to millions of Americans fed up with meaningless wars, big government disconnect, and shrinking personal wealth.  Beyond slogans of hope and change, the anti-neocon Ron Paul R3VOLution offered answers – restore the Constitution, require our leaders to obey it, prosperity and peace will follow.  Although the GOP establishment, with the help of corporate media, thwarted Dr. Paul’s campaign, the political landscape was changed forever.  A new political paradigm emerged in a big way.                   

Here in Boulder, Colorado, folks of many different stripes responded to that call.  Disgruntled Republicans found themselves shoulder to shoulder with antiwar and 911 Truth activists.  Enthusiastically, we formed a local group, leafleted at local events, and pounded the pavement in our own precincts to get Dr. Paul nominated.  Despite the victory of politics-as-usual, Republicrat, and banker yes man, Obama, we pressed on with Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty working to raise awareness for restoring our constitutional republic and building support for future freedom minded candidacies.                   

Yes, that’s right, here in Boulder.  Official sister city of Lhasa, Tibet, and plenty of Free Tibet bumper stickers on ski rack fitted Subarus to prove it, Boulder is a model community for U.N. Agenda 21 and sanctuary city par excellence.  In hyperdrive to eliminate individual and property rights using the sustainability scam and global warming hoax, Boulder is also a case study in how a select population can be convinced that it is hip, trendy, and progressive, to go along with forced incremental collectivization.  Helping in this dumbing down process are plenty of local reactionary individuals and organizations cloaked in banners of ’peace and justice’.  Gatekeepers for Left/Right polarization, they are fond of demonizing Tea Partiers as “racists”, and groups, such as the Oath Keepers, as “right-wing terrorists”.   

Curators of the archaic socialist mindset, they cite greedy, polluting, corporations as the cause of all war and suffering.  Willful stooges serving the power elite agenda they call for more laws and more government to rein in the capitalists conveniently forgetting that we are well past the era of robber baron capitalism.  In this stage of financial capitalism banker owned corporations are melding with banker owned governments ensuring a completion of the fascist model of totalitarianism.     

Despite this antithetical sociopolitical setting, the Boulder Campaign for Liberty continues to grow along with other freedom groups throughout the country.  The message of classical liberalism (limited government, individual liberty) as opposed to the collectivist ideology of the modern liberalism of today is compelling and undeniable.  The phony Left is revealed to be as philosophically bankrupt as the phony Right.  While appearing as opposites, modern establishment Liberals are, in reality, the dialectical partners of Neoconservatives in their shared quest for 21st century fascism.         

Starting a freedom group anywhere is easy.  The hard part lies ahead.                      

The Road Ahead                   

Regardless of the turmoil and confusion caused by attacks from the phony Left and Right, the essence of a legitimate patriot, people’s movement remains intact.  The inappropriate appellations of ”tea baggers” targeting grassroots tax protesters are now seen as the predictably hollow and nervous squeals of the intellectually frustrated.  The prime time television theatrics of Glenn Beck, and other phony conservative disinfo agents, are now exposed as a not so subtle Neocon co-optation attempt.                   

"TRUST ME."

Going forward, the freedom-liberty movement faces still more challenges.  The greatest challenge yet to come is that the movement still needs to clearly define itself and it’s goals independent from special interests.  Establishment GOP party hacks continue their attempt to co-opt the freedom awakening with a new version of Neocon Lite.  Riding the Ron Paul wave and exploiting anti-IRS, anti – Big Govt sentiment, they vilify Obama’s ’socialism’.  At the same time, they extol the virtues of the fascist phony War on Terror along with its destruction of the Bill of Rights.  Let’s all work to restore the Republican Party to its original platform of limited government, they say, and, while we’re at it, bomb the hell outta Iran.  After only a year of Bush’s absence, the Neocons truly expect sane and sober folks to fall for this nonsense.                 

Wall Street parasites pose as born again libertarians and join with other useless talking heads on TV financial news shows.  Preaching the wonders of unfettered capitalism they promote a return to the good old days of limited government.  Noticeably, however, limited government and deregulation for you and me is often missing from the sermon.  Their mantra of; capitalism, capitalism, capitalism, by the way, better captures the linguistic flavor for justifying insider trading and monopoly practices.  It is so much more politically correct than the phrase,  free enterprise - a concept inferred from our Constitution, that speaks to the middle class, and reflects our culture of self-determination.                   

It is said, nature abhors a vacuum.  Nature is not picky and anything will do to immediately fill the void.  The same is true for politics.  Running as ‘Independents’ opportunists are scurrying to pander to an electorate fed up with both Democrats and Republicans.  Hitting all the right notes playing to the populist mood of the day, their charisma is sometimes stunning.  When asked the hard questions about 911 Truth, however, they suddenly go gaga-eyed and do a flip-flop routine rivaling that of contestants on So You Think You Can Dance.  Their obsession with winning, sacrificing true personal patriotism, is revealed.              

Learning From Our Adversaries               

Lenin leads the Bolsheviks out of the R.S.D.L.Party

In Marxist lore it is Lenin credited with the understanding that the most intense ideological struggle happens within the revolutionary party, itself.  It is not with the opposing political parties.  He was keenly aware that the Bolsheviks would not be successful unless there was a common consistent ideology enabling the party to act as a unified disciplined machine.  Amid the chaos of a collapsed Russian government, his insight proved to be valid.  Among the many parties vying for control, it was the Bolsheviks who were the best organized and seized state power because of it.  There were no compromises with other socialist factions.  In the years preceding the 1917 Revolution many Communist politicians lost their lives because they did not recant their beliefs.  The Bolsheviks maintained credibility, respect, and allegiance during crisis.  There were no flip-flops.  Say what you will.             

Government provocateurs and bona fide fringe kooks aside, the genuine freedom movement does not include anyone proposing revolutionary violence.  The infowar and ideological struggle, though, is shaping up to be just as intense.  In order to have credibility and to speak with authority, the Freedom movement must stick with Constitutional values without compromise.  It must not play favorites with the Left or Right.  Sarah Palin and Al Gore should be seen for what they are – two careerist politicians serving the same paymaster.  9/11 and all false flag terror must be acknowledged.  All elements of racism and religious bigotry must be expunged.  Wars of aggression can no longer be acceptable under any circumstance.  A consistent anti-New World Order ideology is sorely needed.          

In our high-tech age of instant gratification telling the truth without compromise and risking electoral defeat is a novel idea.  It will, however, prove to be the standard by which true patriots are separated from phony politicians.  A peaceful Second American Revolution will not happen overnight.  It will demand longterm credibility from ideological consistency.  It will demand speaking the truth.  No compromises.  No flip-flops.                

Further reading:
What Agenda 21 means for your community: http://www.infowars.com/1991-un-policy-paper-describes-exact-purpose-and-trajectory-of-current-copenhagen-treaty/ 
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?cat=11 http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/la21_198.html       
WSJ article – Boulder – sustainability agenda falling apart as it meets fiscal reality:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704320104575015920992845334.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5 
Oath Keepers: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Lenin and the RSDLP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Social_Democratic_Labour_Party

Source: Washington’s Blog
March 7, 2010

Most Americans don’t know what kind of people 9/11 truthers really are. So they can’t figure out whether or not they are dangerous.

Below is a list of people who question what our Government has said about 9/11.

The list proves – once and for all – that people who question 9/11 are dangerous.

Email this list to everyone you know, to prove to them that 9/11 truthers are all dangerous nut cases.
Senior intelligence officers:

* Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is “far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers”. He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that “very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been”, that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there’s enough evidence to justify a new, “hard-hitting” investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath (see this and this).

* A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.

* A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA’s Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11.” (and see this).

* A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored)

* 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (Robert David Steele) stated that “9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war“, and it was probably an inside job (scroll down to Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).

* A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called “perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that “the evidence points at” 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job

* The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 – 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 – 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said “The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup.“

* Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government’s version of the events of 9/11.

Congressmen:

* According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House (confirmed here)

* Current Democratic U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy said “The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush’s watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?”

* Current Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that “we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on”

* Current Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich hints that we aren’t being told the truth about 9/11

* Current Republican Congressman Jason Chafetz says that we need to be vigilant and continue to investigate 9/11

* Former Democratic Senator Mike Gravel states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don’t know the truth about 9/11

* Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee endorses a new 9/11 investigation

* Former U.S. Democratic Congressman Dan Hamburg says that the U.S. government “assisted” in the 9/11 attacks, stating that “I think there was a lot of help from the inside“

* Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee Curt Weldon has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job

9/11 Commissioners:

* The Commission’s co-chairs said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements (free subscription required)

* 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

* 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

* 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal“; “This investigation is now compromised“; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”

* 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

* And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – recently said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

Other government officials:

* U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said “We’ve never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I’ve seen that for a long time.”

* Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who’s who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11

* Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) says “The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defense of incompetence.”

* The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility

* President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon’s Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government’s version of 9/11

* Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is “the dog that doesn’t hunt”

* The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission

* Director of the U.S. “Star Wars” space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated: “If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!”

Numerous other politicians, judges, legal scholars, and attorneys also question at least some aspects of the government’s version of 9/11.

The unedited video is complete pwnage…

Dissenters To Be Detained As “Enemy Belligerents”?

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, March 8, 2010

Since the establishment media is convinced that tea party members, 9/11 truthers, libertarians, Ron Paul supporters, and basically anyone with a dissenting political opinion is a likely domestic terrorist, they should be celebrating the fact that a new bill would allow the government to detain such people as “enemy belligerents” indefinitely and without trial based on their “suspected activity”.

The “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010,” introduced by Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman on Thursday with little fanfare, “sets out a comprehensive policy for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected enemy belligerents who are believed to have engaged in hostilities against the United States by requiring these individuals to be held in military custody, interrogated for their intelligence value and not provided with a Miranda warning,” writes the Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder.

The full bill can be read here (PDF).

The bill does not distinguish between U.S. citizens and non-citizens, and states that “suspected belligerents” who are “considered a “high-value detainee” shall not be provided with a Miranda warning.”

A person is considered a “high value detainee” if they fulfil one of the following criteria.

(1) poses a threat of an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the U.S. or U.S. facilities abroad; (2) poses a threat to U.S. military personnel or U.S. military facilities; (3) potential intelligence value; (4) is a member of al Qaeda or a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda or (5) such other matters as the President considers appropriate

Now that the Southern Poverty Law Center and the federal government, via the MIAC report and innumerable other leaked documents, now consider virtually anyone with a dissenting opinion against the state as “posing a threat,” millions of peaceful American citizens could be swept up by this frightening dragnet of tyranny.

However, according to the bill, an individual doesn’t even have to pose a threat to be snatched, detained and interrogated – they can merely be deemed to be of “potential intelligence value” or come under the vague and sweeping mandate of “such other matters as the President considers appropriate”.

This last designation hands Obama dictator powers to have any American citizen kidnapped, detained, and interrogated on a whim.

The only proviso that even hints at some form of check or balance is the measure that states, “The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must make a preliminary determination whether the detainee is an unprivileged enemy belligerent within 48 hours of taking detainee into custody.”

“The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team must submit its determination to the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General after consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General make a final determination and report the determination to the President and the appropriate committees of Congress. In the case of any disagreement between the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General, the President will make the determination,” states the bill.

The ACLU has expressed its vigorous opposition to the legislation, labeling it nothing less than a “direct attack on the Constitution”.

“Indefinite detention flies in the face of American values and violates this country’s commitment to the rule of law,” states Laura W. Murphy, Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office.

Of course, such positions from the ACLU as well as Amnesty International will only be used as grist for the neo-con propaganda mill about how the bill ought to be passed in order to avoid being “soft on terrorists,” a piece of spin still being swallowed whole by millions of conservatives who are blissfully unaware of the fact that the apparatus of the war on terror is now being aimed squarely at politically active American citizens.

“Torture, indefinite imprisonment, secret trials and limited staged hearings are the stuff of cheap dictatorships,” writes Ian McColgin. “They are the sort of idiocy we scorned in the Soviets, the Koreans and the Vietnamese. It is astonishing that we have senators and citizens even discussing this bill which is not a capitulation to terrorism – it’s the triumph of terrorism.”

Homeland Security is already implementing technology to be enforced at “security events” which purportedly reads “malintent” on behalf of an individual who passes through a checkpoint. Perhaps the video below explains just how “enemy belligerents” will be identified on American soil.

We Are Change founder Luke Rudkowski defends the validity and peacefulness of the 9/11 truth movement on Russia Today.

Radio show host Alex Jones rebukes Fox News and exposes the history of false flag attacks, propaganda, and disinformation in the United States.

Who isnt a terrorist these days? Republicans, Democrats, Tea Partiers, Conspiracy theorists…..what next? Christians? Im tired of everyone using the word terrorist to describe people they dont agree with or even ideologies they dont understand. Im tired of being classified along with two people who dont have any value on life and obviously have serious mental issues.

And no matter which network I look at, the message seems clear….Conspiracy theorists are bad. Meanwhile, they use their slick tricks and slanted interviews that dont allow any clarification or are edited heavily.

EXAMPLE:

In this first clip (3 1/2 min), CNN basically states that anyone who has anything to do with a conspiracy theory is a ‘hatriot’  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixAj5D7YXE

Let me just tell you a few TRUTHS here. First of all, the conspiracy movement did not just start when President Obama became our President. It was around way before that. And to conduct this segment with a banner that says ‘Suicide Warrior’ is just plain wrong. Allowing the misrepresentation of ANY of the conspiracy groups in this manner told me that you just want to point fingers than to do a story about someone who was just plain mentally unstable.

AND HE WAS NOT UNSTABLE BECAUSE OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES

I find it almost funny that Anderson Cooper and John Avlon apparently havent spoken to anyone (like myself) who can present her views clearly and precisely.

It is also odd that EVERYONE in the media wants to slant what the entire 9/11 movement is about….when clearly there are different variances. I consider myself a truther because I have questions about Building 7 and there are no answers and I have questions about why the Commission members now state that they werent given adequate access to investigate thoroughly (as well as other claims). And yes, I have looked at some of the other theories out there, but none of it makes me want to take some sort of ‘revenge’ or ‘coup’ on my government. I just would like some answers.

So, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) sent out this report stating conspiracy theorists are terrorists? And now we have two events where we are being told that the two men were involved in different movements? Sounds like a false flag to me….and Im not even gonna go into the ‘oddities’ surrounding those events.

Over the weekend, Geraldo had Alex Jones as a guest….and surprisingly it wasnt a train wreck. Clearly, the woman who attempted to slam Alex down was not in possession of many facts. She was ‘put in her place’ by Geraldo who explained to her that what Alex said is true. (Golf of Tonkon) This womans attempted attack was another clear cut not willingness to listen and it made her look foolish.

Heres the clip of that:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-XjX00UHkk

Heres a suggestion to the main stream media….How about you conduct interviews fairly for once? If your viewing audience can tell what the interviewers opinion is, youre clearly doing it wrong.

I didn’t post about Joe Stack–the man who flew his airplane into the IRS office building–because I read his manifesto and he struck me as a profoundly troubled individual whose tax troubles were a symptom rather than the cause of his distress, whether he knew it or not. With all the pain he suffered and caused, it felt like piling on to drag politics into the mix–even if that was precisely what he did.

This article from AOL news (click here) contains links to most of the Pentagon gunman’s Internet traces. Not surprisingly (and not unlike James Von Brunn, the white supremacist who opened fire at the Holocaust Memorial last year and Russell Weston, who shot up the Capitol building in 1998) John Patrick Beddell subscribed to a host of paranoid conspiracy theories and harbored a deep distrust of the government. The takeaway for me isn’t that Conspiracy Theory leads inexorably to violence. Most conspiracy theorists–even heavily armed ones–manage to keep it together. It’s more that crazy people are naturally drawn to crazy ideas; that mental derangement and political derangement have a lot in common.

I lurked in some forums shortly after I read the first report that Beddell was a Truther and the consensus seemed to be that it was all a big setup. It had only been days since the SPLC, in a report entitled “Rage on the Right,” had reported an alarming 244% uptick in extremist anti-government Patriot groups in the last year (click here), clearly Beddell was a patsy whose death would be used to justify the inevitable violent government crackdown that’s already in the works. Here Alex Jones’s Prison Planet (click here for the whole article)

Just two days after we warned of false flag domestic attacks that would be blamed on the federal government’s political adversaries were all but inevitable, a Californian man attacked the Pentagon last night in a shooting that wounded two police officers and has since been blamed on the John Patrick Bedell’s advocacy for 9/11 truth.

On Wednesday we explained how a Southern Poverty Law Center report which demonized We Are Change 9/11 truth organizations in the same breath as violent racist skinhead groups was part of a preparatory set-up for violent domestic acts that would be blamed on anti-government extremists.

We pointed out that since examples of Americans committing violence in pursuit of their political beliefs, FBI patsy Timothy McVeigh aside, were thin on the ground, organizations like the SPLC were begging for such incidents to occur in order to provide the federal government with the pretext to crack down on dissent and silence free speech on the Internet.

Nothing paranoid about that. Of course, you could turn the argument on its head, and say that the militant anti-government movement needs more political prisoners and more martyrs, before people will believe that we’re living in a police state. Beddell might have just as easily been their patsy too.

Beddell said he was “determined to see that justice is served in the death of Colonel James Sabow, as a step toward establishing the truth of events such as the September 11 demolitions and institutions such as the coup regime of 1963 that maintains itself in power through the global drug trade, financial corruption, and murder, among other crimes.”

Who was Colonel James Sabow? Sabow was a 28-year Marine veteran, a decorated pilot who had flown 221 missions in Vietnam. He allegedly commit suicide in 1991 after his career imploded over some minor infractions. Sabow’s brother, a neurologist, has spent the last nineteen years trying to prove that he was murdered (click here for a synopsis of his investigation). On the face of it, he makes a convincing case for a coverup–or at the very least, that the Marine brass and NCIS were both hostile and inept. There’s a larger conspiracy story too. Sabow, it is claimed, had threatened to blow the whistle on secret Central American arms-for-drug trades that were being staged at El Toro airbase. Click here for a Christian Science Monitor story on Beddell’s obsession with the case; here for a full account of the case in the Orange County Weekly, and here for a story at a muckraking website, MilitaryCorruption.com.

It would be ironic if Beddell’s insane act helped bring justice to the Sabow family. His brother fears that it will have the opposite effect. “The greatest chance,” he told the Christian Science Monitor, “Is that the intelligence agencies will try to use this to delegitimize the authenticity of the evidence that proves beyond a doubt that Colonel Sabow was murdered.”

well one could fill whole websites with the shenanigans of the bullhorning king of the truth movement
i’ve already quoted an old page about it : http://quintaldo.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/jarhead-jones/

here’s some new stuff, jack blood (who is far from spotless himself) finally couldnt take it anymore being the #2 guy and has spilled the beans on alex jones on february 24, 2010.
fun and refreshing.

Jack worked with Alex for 5 yrs on GCN Network